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My research
into the nature and use of Kagrenac's Tools have led me to consider
and question several things of others for their opinions on the
matter.
First of all some relevant background info from
Vivec's 'Plan to defeat Dagoth Ur:
"The normal procedure for
establishing connection with the Heart is a three-step process. The
wearer of Wraithguard strikes the Heart with the hammer Sunder,
causing the Heart to produce a pure tone.
Then the wearer of the Wraithguard strikes the Heart with the blade
Keening, shattering the pure tone into a prism of
tone-shades. These tone-shades are then imprinted upon the substance
of the wearer of Wraithguard, giving him an immortal and divine
nature.
The Nerevarine will not be taught the secret
rituals required to perform the third step. Instead, The Nerevarine
will strike the Heart with Keening for a second time, causing its
tones to diverge into unstable patterns of interference. Further
repeated strikes with Keening will further disrupt the tones, with
the ultimate result of shattering and dispelling Kagrenac's original
enchantments binding the Heart, thereby severing the Heart's links
with Dagoth Ur, and with any surviving Heartwights, and with the
Tribunal. Destroying Kagrenac's enchantments on the Heart will also
stop the corrupt effusion of the Heart's divine power, and end the
Blight on Morrowind."
The more important parts are in red.
Other information I have gathered has come from the last living
Dwemer, Yagrum Bagarn. Evidently the Tools were meant to be used to
'forge mythopoeic enchantments'. What this implies I can only guess
that he means the forging of enchantments on the Heart to control,
extract, or arouse the divine powers of it. I myself favor the term
'arouse' as clearly only a powerful Mage-Crafter or Sorcerer could
harness the power aroused from the Heart properly, and use it to
effective ends without any mis-calculations.(NOTE: I do not believe
it was a Mis-calculation that caused the dissappearance of the
Dwemer, it was deliberate.)
Now on to the questions:
What is meant by the term 'Tone'?
What is a 'Pure
Tone'?
What is a 'Tone-Shade'?
Is Corprus just an
un-controlled Divine imprint upon the substance of the victim?
Are the Tools like a Tuning Fork in that they cause the
wearer to become 'Tuned In' to the Divine Power of the Heart,
thereby allowing his being to not only harness, but become one with
the Heart?
(Something else of note regarding 'The Plan to
defeat Dagoth Ur'):
Our plan to destroy Dagoth Ur also runs
the risk of destroying the Tribunal. The plan is to permanently
disrupt Kagrenac's enchantments upon the Heart, severing connections
with Dagoth Ur and ourselves, and rendering us all once again
mortal. A mortal Kagrenac may then be
destroyed by mundane means. The loss of godhood and the possible
death of the Tribunal are judged a necessary risk and sacrifice.
Is the term above a mistake, or does this
mean what I think it does?
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Cool analysis!
Perhaps magic on Nirn is distributed much the same way as RF
(radio frequency) energy is on earth. The heart of Lorkhan was just
a rather large crystal that acted as a divine magic "transmitter".
There are probably similar transmitters all over Nirn. I would be
willing to bet the Dwemer mechanized constructs (Centurions,
Spiders, etc.) have a similar crystal inside that resonates with
"pure tone", causing them to animate.
"Tone" would be a
"frequency" of magic that does not resonate with all of Nirn.
"Pure Tone" would be a "frequency" of magic that resonates
with all matter and energy on Nirn.
"Tone shades" would be
destructive harmonics of Tone or Pure Tone that cause feedback and,
if powerful enough, would destroy the "transmitter", a.k.a. Heart of
Lorkhan.
Critiques, anyone?
Also, regarding your
last statement, are you suggesting that Kagrenac and Dagoth Ur are
one and the same? I thought for some time that it was interesting
that Dagoth Ur was able to understand and utilize Kagrenac's tools.
Sure creates a pretty cool plot twist, doesn't it?
P.S. I
think the Mantella from Daggerfall that is the heart of Numidium is
very similar to Lorkhan's heart, and the Mantella is described as "a
massive green gem".
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I think the
Dwemer put enchantments on an object in a different fashion than the
other races of Tamriel. Keening and Sunder seem to be like a tunning
fork and well I'm not sure what Keening would be. But anyway the
sounds given off from the striking of the heart seem to be what
allows one to share in the power of the heart. Multiple striking of
the heart with Keening seems to IMO push the limits of what the
enchantments on the heart can handle and there for destroy them (the
enchantments not the heart itself).
In reply to:
Is Corprus just an un-controlled Divine imprint upon the
substance of the victim
Yes thats exactly what I believe corprus is.
As for the Kagrenac thing I think that is a typo because no
where else in the document is Dagoth Ur reffered to as Kagrenac
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You have some
very interesting theories there.
I agree that the 'Tones'
are a sort of Divine 'Harmonic Resonance', but not that it doesn't
resonate with all of Nirn. It doesn't resonate 'from' Nirn to be
more specific. Where it resonates from I cannot tell.
I
think the 'Heart' was deliberatly named 'Lorkhans' by the Dwemer in
a sort of mockery of those gods the Dwemer despised. Whether or not
it really is, is another debate. Perhaps the Heart really is just a
powerful gem of sorts, and its possible that another 'synthetic'
type of magic stone could have been created in the west. I just
don't see how a mortal(or possibly not) soul could be the source of
its power.
I also do not think what you call 'destructive
harmonics' is what caused the Heart to dissappear or be destroyed. I
think once the Nerevarine dispelled the enchantments holding the
heart someone or something took it back. But something that recently
came to my mind is what if its possible that what happened to the
Dwemer in that fateful time of they're dissappearance, also happened
to the Heart when it was released of its bindings? Meaning whatever
happened to the Dwemer also happened to the Heart.
I would
have disregarded the last statement if it hadn't been for my pursuit
of proving that the Dwemer were somehow involved with the rising of
the Sixth House. The head of the Dissidant Priests states that it
could have been 'both' house Dwemer and house Dagoth that was
causing the threat to Morrowind and all of Tamriel. It's funny how
you can find things here and there that are completly
un-substantiated, but yet seem to imply that your on the right
track.
One interesting thing to bring to your attention is
that Dagoth Ur 'didn't' need Kagrenac's Tools to tap the power of
the Heart. This suggests even more to me that he was under the
influence of something that was already able to transfer the Hearts
power to him, the Dwemer. Could it be that the Dwemer are now
connected with the Heart itself as a whole race? I don't want to get
into details as this is still a fresh Theory for me, and completly
un-provable.
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In reply to:
One interesting thing to bring to your attention is that Dagoth
Ur 'didn't' need Kagrenac's Tools to tap the power of the Heart.
That is something that I have brought up before and
is the main thought behind my belief that Dagoth Ur did not create
corprus rather it is something that flows from the heart which
corrupted him while Nerevar was away talking to the Tribunal which
is why they were unable to kill him when they returned.
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From the Monomyth:
The Myth of Aurbis
Subtitled "The Psijiic Compensation," "Mythic Aurbis" was an attempt by Artaeum
apologists to explain the basics of Aldmeri religion to Uriel V in
the early, glorious part of his reign. It quietly avoided any blame
or bias against the Lorkhan-concept, which was still held in esteem
by the Cyrodiils as "Shezarr", the missing sibling of the Divines.
Despite this, the Psijiici still give a nice summary of the Elder
view, and it will serve our purposes here. This version comes from
the archives of the Imperial Seminary from the handwritten notes of
an unknown scribe.
Mythic Aurbis
exists, and has existed from time without measure, as a
fanciful Unnatural Realm.
'Aurbis' is
used to connote the imperceptible Penumbra, the Gray
Center between the IS/IS NOT of Anu and Padomay. It contains the multitude realms of Aetherius and
Oblivion, as well as other, less structured forms.
The magical beings of Mythic Aurbis live for a long time and
have complex narrative lives, creating the patterns
of myth.
These are spirits made from bits of the
immortal polarity. The first of these was Akatosh the Time Dragon,
whose formation made it easier for other spirits to structure
themselves. Gods and demons form and reform and procreate.
Finally, the magical beings of
Mythic Aurbis told the ultimate story -- that of their own death.
For some this was an artistic transfiguration into the concrete,
non-magical substance of the world. For
others, this was a war in which all were slain, their bodies
becoming the substance of the world. For yet others, this was a
romantic marriage and parenthood, with the parent spirits naturally
having to die and give way to the succeeding mortal races.
The agent of this communal decision was Lorkhan, whom most
early myths vilify as a trickster or deceiver. More sympathetic
versions of this story point out Lorkhan as being the reason the
mortal plane exists at all.
The magical beings created the
races of the mortal Aurbis in their own
image, either consciously as artists and craftsmen, or as the fecund
rotting matter out of which the mortals sprung forth, or in a
variety of other analogical senses.
The magical beings,
then, having died, became the et'Ada. The et'Ada are the things
perceived and revered by the mortals as gods, spirits, or geniuses
of Aurbis. Through their deaths, these magical
beings separated themselves in nature from the other magical beings
of the Unnatural realms.
The Daedra were created at
this time also, being spirits and Gods more attuned to Oblivion, or
that realm closer to the Void of Padomay.
This act is the dawn of the Mythic (Merethic) Era. It has been
perceived by the earliest mortals many different ways, either as a
joyous 'second creation', or (especially by the Elves) as a painful
fracturing from the divine. The originator of the event is always
Lorkhan.
Lorkhan
This Creator-Trickster-Tester deity is
in every Tamrielic mythic tradition. His most popular name is the
Aldmeri "Lorkhan," or Doom Drum. He convinced or contrived the
Original Spirits to bring about the creation of the Mortal Plane,
upsetting the status quo much like his father
Padomay had introduced instability into the universe in the
Beginning Place. After the world is materialized,
Lorkhan is separated from his divine center, sometimes
involuntarily, and wanders the creation of the et'Ada.
AG:
The suttle differances between the
'Mythic' Aurbis and our apparent 'Mortal' Aurbis is one of
mortality. It is my belief after spending a great deal of time
pouring over the Monomyth and many other texts that the 'divine
spark' or 'souls' of mortals are constantly being recycled by the
Aedra as need dictates. Once we die we are taken back into our
former state (as part of an Aedra) and remain thier until it is time
to be re-instated as another form. In effect our world is a
reflection of the 'Mythic' Grey-Maybe, something I would call a
'Mortal' Grey-Maybe, being aspects of certain Aedra feely roaming
the plane(t). I do not see this as a sundering, but a willed state
of being enacted by our Ancestors (or Aedra) as a way to experience
themselves as what they wish, and not as a strictly defined aspect
of Anu (being the Aldmeri Anu in definition).
And just to satisfy that this does in fact have something
to do with the Tools of Kagrenac, take a look above at 'creating the
patterns of Myth', this brings to mind an idea that when Yagrum
mentions 'Mythopoeic Enchantments' he means these 'Patterns of
Myth'. Kagrenac was using the tools to focus, flay, and control the
patterns of myth within (or flowing from) the Heart.
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The question
is then what is the Psijic Endeavor, and its relationship to the
Numidium effects including events such as the disappearance of the
Dwemer and the ascension of the God of Worms.
This also ties
back to Sotha Sil, his obsession with machinations and the Dwemer
methodology I believe is related to his Psijic training.
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Does this mean
that whatever happened to the Dwemer, they are stuck where they are,
unless they have access to something like the heart there, or
intervention by the gods?
I take it that in the destruction
of the enchantments on the heart did not reverse the enchantments.
Otherwise, the Dwemer would be back...
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Actually
drakkar that is a very good supporting argument for the thought that
their dissapearance was not the result of striking the heart. The
enchantments did reverse for the Tribunal and Dagoth Ur returning
them to their mortal status. But if the Dwemer used the heart to go
somewhere they were not brought back.
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Well,
depending on where they went (if they were not destroyed), it is
perfectly possible that they required the Hearth's power only to go
there, not to stay.
About Dagoth Ur's connection to the
Earth : we know that he did not do the same things has the Tribunal
with the Earth - he might have used the tools to create a permanent
connection, where the Three needed to come back to refuel their
powers. Such a permanent connection sin't likely to have improved
it's sanity, as drawing more power from the Hearth expose to more of
the side effects.
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Question: What
is meant by the term 'Tone'?
Answere: I think that all of the
Gods have a 'tone' like a piano key. And I suppose if you could
become in synchronised with one of the 'tones' then you could in
theory become a god. But this doesn't explain why Dagoth Ur has such
strong powers. It might be that he used the tools himself without
telling anyone about it. I mean the left him the tools and the heart
it would have been awfuly tempting to become a god. But these are
all just speculation.
Question: What is a 'Pure Tone'?
Answere: I think its the perfect tone to become a god.
Question: What is a 'Tone-Shade'?
Answere: Well it seems
that a pure tone is too much for mortal to handle, so you have to
break it down into manageable sizes so the wraithguard can transfer
it to the wearer.
Question: Is Corprus just an un-controlled
Divine imprint upon the substance of the victim?
Answere: Yes.
Question: Are the Tools like a Tuning Fork in that they
cause the wearer to become 'Tuned In' to the Divine Power of the
Heart, thereby allowing his being to not only harness, but become
one with the Heart?
Answere: Maybe. There isn't enough about the
tools to make a clear answere. But it would seem that they are some
kind of tuning fork.
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